Live with Emily Ley & Kate Strickler of Naptime Kitchen

In this heartfelt conversation,

Kate Strickler

and I opened up about the weight we carry as mothers — the constant tug-of-war between work deadlines and a child asking "Can you come have lunch with me at school today?" We laughed about my 14-year-old's love for Drake and Kate's struggle with "type A mom" anxiety, finding solidarity in how we both tend to collapse on our husbands during inevitable breakdowns. Most touchingly, Kate revealed what she knows for sure: our children need to feel not just loved but genuinely liked, especially as they grow older and begin developing into the people they were made to be. Her upcoming book I Just Wish I Had a Bigger Kitchen: And Other Lies I Think Will Make Me Happy beautifully captures this ongoing journey toward contentment that resonates so deeply with me. Follow

Kate Strickler

here on Substack and enjoy the chat.